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The Bar Is Low in Tech Consulting. Do the Basics. Stand Out.
Ever feel like basic professionalism (like returning a phone call, showing up on time, or actually listening to a client) has become a rare superpower? You aren't alone. In fact, it might be the easiest competitive ad…
Episode 27 · 23 min · March 30, 2026
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Ever feel like basic professionalism (like returning a phone call, showing up on time, or actually listening to a client) has become a rare superpower? You aren't alone. In fact, it might be the easiest competitive advantage you can build.
In this episode, Ben Griswold (Grizen) and Noah Heldman (OutcomeSource) unpack a simple but profound truth about the modern workplace: the bar for success is shockingly low. They swap hilarious and frustrating customer service war stories, from Noah's 90-minute screaming match with a Vonage retention script to the dark magic of Dish Network's un-cancelable subscriptions. They contrast these nightmares with frictionless, positive experiences and apply the exact same lessons to technology consulting.
From doing five minutes of basic AI research before a meeting to simply being a concise and patient listener, Ben and Noah explain how mastering the "controllables" can make you look like an absolute rockstar in any industry.
*In This Episode, You'll Learn:*
* Why the "bar is low" in modern business and how to use it to your advantage to win clients.
* Hilarious customer service fails: The Vonage nightmare and the Dish Network retention trap.
* A massive win: How Vercel uses AI chat to make cancellations and refunds completely frictionless.
* The simple consulting pillars that win trust: Responsiveness, active listening, and detailed follow-through.
* How to use AI to do highly effective client meeting prep in under 60 seconds.
* Why controlling the "controllables" (punctuality, patience, conciseness) is the ultimate career hack for early-career engineers and seasoned veterans alike.
*Connect with Us:*
* Ben Griswold | Grizen: https://grizen.com
* Noah Heldman | OutcomeSource: https://outcomesource.com
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